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Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you....
Posted by 'itpro' on 24 Nov 2008 @ 10:53

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"At the end of the day, I'm a racer, not a rule maker or enforcer."

That's not true, is it?

If you saw someone in YOUR race painting-on tyre softener, or adding 'octane boost', or using tyre warmers, or fitting new tyres for the final, etc., what would YOU do? I think you ARE an enforcer.... just like the rest of us.

Secondly, I assume you only place ONE wheel over the kerb. What would you do if you were overtaken by someone cutting a corner COMPLETELY and coming out ahead of you.... e.g., skipping the bus stop at Kim? Would you complain if he hadn't been black flagged? Would you complain if he overtook you AT the bus stop simply by missing ONE corner? WHY? He's only doing EXACTLY what YOU claim you'd do... i.e. crossing the white line. Ok, YOU (I assume) claim it's acceptable to cross it with ONE wheel (because you DO!) but somehow it would seem to be UNaccapetable if HE chooses 4 wheels? What do you do about the people who beat you by using 2, or 3 wheels off the track?And how about if it's NOT your local club but a NATIONAL meeting! You DON'T know that EVERYBODY puts all FOUR wheels on the kerb at Rye but YOU dodn't KNOW that and get beaten by a 'local' whoi KNOWS that they can drive a coauch and horses through the rule book at THAT corner! And that example is NOT 'esoteric', it HAPPENS!

This IS the point! If the rule is up for 'interpretation' how the **** do you ensure that you are ALL using the SAME 'interpretation'? YOU may think 2 wheels is ok; you're competitors think 3 wheels are ok but you are ALL beaten by the guy who believes that FOUR wheels are ok....... and passes the LOT of you by missing the bus stop!

Tell me HOW you are going to go to the CoC and state the following:

" We know the track limit is the white line. We put 1, 2 or 3 wheels OVER that line but HE won by putting FOUR wheels over. We were ALL cheating but he cheated BETTER than us so you should disqualify HIM and not US (because we are CR*P at cheating)!"

Yeah.......

Can I come and listen to the appeal when it comes up?

Ian

Message Thread:

Spot on Itpro. by 'raceinstructor' (22 Nov 2008 @ 8:09)

This isn't new. by 'DavyBoy' (22 Nov 2008 @ 8:48)

not every circuit by 'andrewf' (22 Nov 2008 @ 9:46)

Re: not every circuit by 'SimonS' (22 Nov 2008 @ 21:46)

Re: not every circuit by 'andrewf' (23 Nov 2008 @ 9:12)

Re: seriously can't see what the fuss... by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan' (22 Nov 2008 @ 22:27)

Re: seriously can't see what the fuss... by 'QuickOldTimer' (22 Nov 2008 @ 23:06)

Re: seriously can't see what the fuss... by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan' (23 Nov 2008 @ 0:08)

Re: seriously can't see what the fuss... by 'rotaxmxr' (23 Nov 2008 @ 0:16)

Re: seriously can't see what the fuss... by 'raceinstructor' (23 Nov 2008 @ 9:18)

Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you.... by 'itpro' (23 Nov 2008 @ 18:06)

Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you.... by 'DavyBoy' (23 Nov 2008 @ 18:23)

Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you.... by 'itpro' (23 Nov 2008 @ 19:07)

Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you.... by 'rotaxmxr' (23 Nov 2008 @ 19:51)

Tripe by 'itpro' (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:00)

Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you.... by 'DavyBoy' (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:03)

Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you.... by 'itpro' (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:27)

Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you.... by 'DavyBoy' (24 Nov 2008 @ 10:19)

Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you.... by 'itpro' << You are here!

Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you.... by 'DavyBoy' (24 Nov 2008 @ 11:51)

Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you.... by 'itpro' (24 Nov 2008 @ 12:00)

Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you.... by 'DavyBoy' (24 Nov 2008 @ 12:18)

Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you.... by 'itpro' (24 Nov 2008 @ 13:15)

So this is the rule that can't be relaxed! by 'SteveC' (24 Nov 2008 @ 12:38)

Re: So this is the rule that can't be relaxed! by 'itpro' (24 Nov 2008 @ 14:04)

And...... by 'itpro' (24 Nov 2008 @ 14:13)

4 ie whole of the kart! by 'SteveC' (25 Nov 2008 @ 8:13)

Ahhhh haaa! by 'itpro' (25 Nov 2008 @ 10:30)

I don't know if I agree or disagree with....... by 'SteveC' (25 Nov 2008 @ 11:20)

Re: I don't know if I agree or disagree with...... by 'QuickOldTimer' (25 Nov 2008 @ 11:34)

I'd have to hypothetically see the drivers by 'SteveC' (25 Nov 2008 @ 11:39)

Re: I'd have to hypothetically see the drivers by 'QuickOldTimer' (25 Nov 2008 @ 11:52)

Re: I'd have to hypothetically see the drivers by 'DanXP1' (25 Nov 2008 @ 12:50)

You can't have a rule that covers all....... by 'SteveC' (25 Nov 2008 @ 13:44)

Re: You can't have a rule that covers all....... by 'DanXP1' (25 Nov 2008 @ 14:01)

Luckily every CoC in the Country is using........ by 'SteveC' (26 Nov 2008 @ 9:39)

That's TRIPE Steve! by 'itpro' (25 Nov 2008 @ 14:08)

Re: That's TRIPE Steve! by 'DanXP1' (25 Nov 2008 @ 14:25)

Historic, exactly! by 'SteveC' (26 Nov 2008 @ 9:43)

I knew you'd missed the point! by 'SteveC' (26 Nov 2008 @ 9:35)

Re: I knew you'd missed the point! by 'itpro' (26 Nov 2008 @ 16:42)

Not same size, but same shape! by 'SteveC' (27 Nov 2008 @ 10:57)

Wrong........... yet AGAIN, Steve! by 'itpro' (28 Nov 2008 @ 12:12)

Play on words Ian! by 'SteveC' (28 Nov 2008 @ 12:33)

I would be enforcing them as per MSA regs! by 'SteveC' (25 Nov 2008 @ 13:40)

Re: seriously can't see what the fuss... by 'SimonS' (23 Nov 2008 @ 9:29)

When has the 'rule' ever been enforced by 'DavyBoy' (23 Nov 2008 @ 11:48)

Re: When has the 'rule' ever been enforced by 'RobWallace' (23 Nov 2008 @ 13:35)

Lucky it's only a disc protector. by 'RoadRat' (23 Nov 2008 @ 13:46)

HUNDREDS of time..... by GOOD cocs by 'itpro' (23 Nov 2008 @ 18:02)

Re: HUNDREDS of time..... by GOOD cocs by 'DavyBoy' (23 Nov 2008 @ 18:32)

Re: HUNDREDS of time..... by GOOD cocs by 'itpro' (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:02)

Re: HUNDREDS of time..... by GOOD cocs by 'DavyBoy' (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:04)

Re: HUNDREDS of time..... by GOOD cocs by 'itpro' (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:09)

Re: HUNDREDS of time..... by GOOD cocs by 'alanrr' (24 Nov 2008 @ 11:07)

Re: HUNDREDS of time..... by GOOD cocs by 'itpro' (24 Nov 2008 @ 11:20)

Tony hasn't CoC'd at Kim for over..... by 'SteveC' (24 Nov 2008 @ 12:46)

Re: Tony hasn't CoC'd at Kim for over..... by 'itpro' (24 Nov 2008 @ 13:45)

I don't need to re write it,........ by 'SteveC' (25 Nov 2008 @ 8:17)

Re: HUNDREDS of time..... by GOOD cocs by 'rotaxmxr' (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:01)

Your inconsistencies are STUNNING! by 'itpro' (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:06)

You saying Tony Temple........ by 'SteveC' (24 Nov 2008 @ 12:41)

ps As Junior British Team Manager Tony..... by 'SteveC' (24 Nov 2008 @ 12:42)

Re: ps As Junior British Team Manager Tony..... by 'itpro' (24 Nov 2008 @ 13:52)

Rules with discretion are because no two....... by 'SteveC' (25 Nov 2008 @ 8:23)

RotaxMxr by 'itpro' (23 Nov 2008 @ 17:58)

Re: RotaxMxr by 'RoadRat' (23 Nov 2008 @ 18:25)

Re: RotaxMxr by 'itpro' (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:13)

Of course 'Pierre' would get away with it!! by 'RoadRat' (23 Nov 2008 @ 22:47)

Re: Of course 'Pierre' would get away with it!! by 'itpro' (24 Nov 2008 @ 2:04)

Re: RotaxMxr by 'rotaxmxr' (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:07)

Re: RotaxMxr by 'itpro' (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:18)

Re: RotaxMxr by 'rotaxmxr' (23 Nov 2008 @ 21:14)

Re: RotaxMxr by 'itpro' (23 Nov 2008 @ 21:29)

Re: RotaxMxr by 'davidmc' (24 Nov 2008 @ 9:36)

DavidMc by 'itpro' (24 Nov 2008 @ 11:01)

Re: DavidMc by 'davidmc' (24 Nov 2008 @ 12:15)

Re: DavidMc by 'itpro' (24 Nov 2008 @ 13:30)

Re: RotaxMxr by 'itpro' (24 Nov 2008 @ 2:17)

itpro by 'NJB' (24 Nov 2008 @ 8:39)

Re: itpro by 'itpro' (24 Nov 2008 @ 11:09)

Re: itpro by 'NJB' (24 Nov 2008 @ 13:39)

Re: itpro by 'itpro' (24 Nov 2008 @ 13:57)

Re: itpro by 'NJB' (24 Nov 2008 @ 14:27)

Re: itpro by 'Florent' (24 Nov 2008 @ 14:51)

How unusual! by 'itpro' (24 Nov 2008 @ 17:01)

Re: How unusual! by 'Florent' (24 Nov 2008 @ 17:13)

Re: How unusual! by 'itpro' (25 Nov 2008 @ 10:52)

You forgot Number 9 Florent! by 'SteveC' (25 Nov 2008 @ 11:25)

Re: You forgot Number 9 Florent! by 'Florent' (25 Nov 2008 @ 12:11)

Re: You forgot Number 9 Florent! by 'itpro' (25 Nov 2008 @ 13:25)

Behave Ian, Florent is a great guy! by 'SteveC' (25 Nov 2008 @ 13:52)

Re: You forgot Number 9 Florent! by 'Florent' (25 Nov 2008 @ 14:15)

Re: You forgot Number 9 Florent! by 'itpro' (25 Nov 2008 @ 14:23)

Re: You forgot Number 9 Florent! by 'Florent' (25 Nov 2008 @ 14:28)

Re: You forgot Number 9 Florent! by 'itpro' (25 Nov 2008 @ 15:32)

cont.. by 'itpro' (25 Nov 2008 @ 15:34)

Ian is actually neither laughable nor sad,...... by 'SteveC' (25 Nov 2008 @ 13:50)

Re: Ian is actually neither laughable nor sad,.... by 'Florent' (25 Nov 2008 @ 14:19)

Re: Ian is actually neither laughable nor sad,.... by 'itpro' (25 Nov 2008 @ 14:25)

Re: Ian is actually neither laughable nor sad,.... by 'Florent' (25 Nov 2008 @ 14:32)

Re: Ian is actually neither laughable nor sad,.... by 'Florent' (25 Nov 2008 @ 14:37)

English culture lessons for free! by 'itpro' (25 Nov 2008 @ 15:16)

Re: Is..... by 'Aztech' (25 Nov 2008 @ 22:30)

It's exciting, it's waht it must have been like... by 'SteveC' (26 Nov 2008 @ 9:57)

Re: Thats quite funy Steve... by 'Aztech' (26 Nov 2008 @ 10:03)

I could do it in a Jonathan Woss accent, but...... by 'SteveC' (26 Nov 2008 @ 10:47)

Re: itpro by 'itpro' (24 Nov 2008 @ 16:54)

Re: itpro by 'NJB' (24 Nov 2008 @ 17:26)

Re: lol by 'MattBell' (24 Nov 2008 @ 18:42)

Kerbing only ok cos drivers get a way with it by 'DanXP1' (24 Nov 2008 @ 19:36)

Re: Kerbing only ok cos drivers get a way with it by 'broke' (24 Nov 2008 @ 19:57)

Re: Kerbing only ok cos drivers get a way with it by 'MattBell' (24 Nov 2008 @ 20:10)

Matt by 'itpro' (25 Nov 2008 @ 10:21)

Re: Kerbing only ok cos drivers get a way with it by 'RoadRat' (24 Nov 2008 @ 20:41)

Re: Kerbing only ok cos drivers get a way with it by 'DanXP1' (24 Nov 2008 @ 20:55)

Re: Kerbing only ok cos drivers get a way with it by 'MattBell' (24 Nov 2008 @ 21:42)

Re: Kerbing only ok cos drivers get a way with it by 'DanXP1' (24 Nov 2008 @ 22:38)

Some answers to this. by 'DavyBoy' (25 Nov 2008 @ 9:20)

Re: Kerbing only ok cos drivers get a way with it by 'adey8ball' (25 Nov 2008 @ 9:59)

re the Clay chicane by 'QuickOldTimer' (25 Nov 2008 @ 10:32)

Matt by 'itpro' (25 Nov 2008 @ 10:35)

Dan, Dave, RceInstr, etc.. by 'itpro' (25 Nov 2008 @ 10:46)

Re: itpro by 'MattBell' (25 Nov 2008 @ 11:01)

Re: Mat by 'QuickOldTimer' (25 Nov 2008 @ 11:13)

Matt + Re: Dan, Dave, RceInstr, etc.. by 'DanXP1' (25 Nov 2008 @ 13:14)

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