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Re: ......and T10 ?...OK. Vince...let's look at it
Posted by 'itpro' on 10 Feb 2012 @ 17:32

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D-i-y

That's one of the classical answers.... however.... think it through.

The standard way to hold that inner wheel 'un loaded' would be to have some positive lock applied. As you know, that raises the inner front of the kart and that means that cornering centripetal-force tips the kart OVER onto its front OUTER wheel, which inturn, reduces the weight on the REAR inner wheel, allowing the kart to become more of a 3-wheeler, thus obviating the need for a diff in a kart! That would imply that the BEST way to take a long corner would be with some 'lock' applied. Is that what we see from the REALLY quick boys?

Nope!

We see them exit the corner with ZERO lock! Infact, the really quick guys TAKE most of the the corner with zero lock. Once they have turned INTO the corner, they keep the wheel 'dead ahead from then on! They do this by having the rear 'unstuck' enough to have the front and rear wheels pointing 'dead-ahead' but the rear VERY slightly sliding....

On the basis that you are implying that 'good release' is when you DON'T have to apply positive lock to complete the corner, it seems to imply that 'good release' is having NO understeer on exit of the corner......

That seems to invert the meaning of 'release', with it now NOT being something to do with the REAR of the kart to now meaning that 'better release' is something to do with improving the FRONT grip of the kart!

In case anyone doubts that quick drivers take LONG corners with zero lock, just watch a few videos of World Champ meetings. The 'ideal' seems to be having the kart at such an angle that the rear axle is PERFECTLY 90 degrees to the direction of travel.... i.e., the rear wheels are pointing at a PERFECT tangent to the arc that the kart is 'painting' on the track. The angle is maintained with the throttle settings but CAN be adjusted with microscopic steering movements. The rule seems to be that the VERY quickest (e.g., Terry Fullerton) doesn't bother with the steering wheel AT ALL once they are into the corner! Basically, the better the driver, the LESS he/she moves the steering wheel!

Ian

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Re: ......and T10 ? by 'Vincemax' (09 Feb 2012 @ 17:59)

Re: ......and T10 ? by 'RCexcel' (09 Feb 2012 @ 21:14)

Re: ......and T10 ?...OK. Vince...let's look at it by 'itpro' (10 Feb 2012 @ 10:12)

Re: ......and T10 ?...OK. Vince...let's look at it by 'BanzaiBoy' (10 Feb 2012 @ 11:49)

Re: ......and T10 ?...OK. Vince...let's look at it by 'Vincemax' (10 Feb 2012 @ 12:05)

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Re: ......and T10 ?...OK. Vince...let's look at it by 'itpro' (10 Feb 2012 @ 13:08)

Re: ......and T10 ?...OK. Vince...let's look at it by 'BombHead' (10 Feb 2012 @ 14:30)

Re: ......and T10 ?...OK. Vince...let's look at it by 'd-i-y71' (10 Feb 2012 @ 15:27)

Re: ......and T10 ?...OK. Vince...let's look at it by 'itpro' << You are here!

Re: ......and T10 ?...OK. Vince...let's look at it by 'd-i-y71' (11 Feb 2012 @ 10:01)

Re: ......and T10 ?...OK. Vince...let's look at it by 'Vincemax' (10 Feb 2012 @ 17:49)

Re: ......and T10 ?...OK. Vince...let's look at it by 'Vincemax' (10 Feb 2012 @ 17:56)

Re: ......and T10 ?...OK. Vince...let's look at it by 'itpro' (10 Feb 2012 @ 18:17)

Re: ......and T10 ?...OK. Vince...let's look at it by 'itpro' (10 Feb 2012 @ 18:14)

Re: ......and T10 ?...OK. Vince...let's look at it by 'davidmc' (10 Feb 2012 @ 18:49)

Re: ......and T10 ?...OK. Vince...let's look at it by 'BanzaiBoy' (13 Feb 2012 @ 11:47)

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