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Posted by 'Mart247' on 16 Nov 2012 @ 14:25


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Mart247
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I honestly don�t see the problem that everyone is getting upset about before we've even tried anything... sorry. I'm a Comer Dad who the end of next year will be moving up as we�re out of age having only been in it the last 6 months. Our choice to run Comer rather than Honda.
Everyone on the grid will still be the same weight. My son wouldn�t win ballasted to 99KG, he won�t win ballasted to 103 KG. The results won�t change more than 5% as a result of heavier kids being less disadvantaged. I don't believe there'll be any safety issues with 4% heavier karts, only bad backs for parents !
The Honda grid will be exactly the same scenario with their changes.
The bigger picture is people go to Honda (as I understand it) as they don�t want the hassle of 2 strokes and the Tryton problems. I get that. And you still can. But if you now have a really good user friendly engine, the IAME, which doesn't have many of the problems associated with the Comer then why wouldn�t you run/consider it ? There will be a little bit of advantage with getting IAME carb settings 100% spot on, (as with Comer) but as you can�t change them mid race it would benefit most people I think. If we weren�t out of it in 12 months I�d already have the IAME motor. And you can�t tell me it�s only good Comer motors that cost a few �1000 as suggested, try buying a race winning Honda and see how much it is. AND � Hondas will suffer a much much lower drop in value than Comers so thank your stars Honda parents.
Our W60�s will have lost at least 50% of their value by the time I try to sell them next year.
It IS progress and I think in 12-18 months you�ll see this change is a good/inevitable thing and Cadet classes will only be stronger or weaker due to the financial climate, not the MSA�s recent decision.
Like it or not, IAME is MSA�s preferred route, best we all adapt as petition or not there�s not a chance they�ll change it before the 3 months test.

I believe the restrictor is the easy bit, anyone with an engineering brain will know how easy it is to mass produce a CNC�d plate. Look at TKM etc., in fact TKM would be the obvious supplier for a quick turnaround & keep the money in the karting industry. But yes, it will be tight.
This viewpoint is purely technical, I�ve conveniently ignored the information about this amendment being on safety/speed grounds when as rightly said the kid can then get in a Minimax & scare himself stupid !

Message Thread:

Cadet restriction un fair Towards Honda!  by 'racingjase'   (15 Nov 2012 @ 8:06)
Re: Cadet restriction un fair Towards Honda!  by 'nichop'   (15 Nov 2012 @ 8:35)
Re: Cadet restriction un fair Towards Honda!  by 'richydehav'   (15 Nov 2012 @ 9:29)
Re: Cadet restriction un fair Towards Honda!  by 'EtheT'   (15 Nov 2012 @ 11:35)
Re: Cadet restriction un fair Towards Honda!  by 'EtheT'   (15 Nov 2012 @ 13:58)
Re: Cadet restriction un fair Towards Honda!  by 'kezz99'   (15 Nov 2012 @ 17:25)
Re: Cadet restriction un fair Towards Honda!  by 'racingjase'   (15 Nov 2012 @ 17:43)
Re: Cadet restriction un fair Towards Honda!  by 'gus16'   (15 Nov 2012 @ 18:13)
Re: Cadet restriction un fair Towards Honda!  by 'racingjase'   (15 Nov 2012 @ 18:15)
Re: Cadet restriction un fair Towards Honda!  by 'Berniewade'   (15 Nov 2012 @ 18:21)
Re: Cadet restriction un fair Towards Honda!  by 'racingjase'   (15 Nov 2012 @ 18:32)
Re: Cadet restriction un fair Towards Honda!  by 'RoadRat'   (15 Nov 2012 @ 18:21)
Re: Cadet restriction un fair Towards Honda!  by 'nichop'   (15 Nov 2012 @ 19:21)
Re: Cadet restriction un fair Towards Honda!  by 'EtheT'   (15 Nov 2012 @ 19:37)
'What did you move to ?'  by 'RoadRat'   (15 Nov 2012 @ 21:20)
Re: Cadet restriction un fair Towards Honda!  by 'nichop'   (15 Nov 2012 @ 19:36)
Re: Cadet restriction un fair Towards Honda!  by 'gus16'   (15 Nov 2012 @ 20:01)
Re: Cadet restriction un fair Towards Honda!  by 'kezz99'   (15 Nov 2012 @ 20:30)
Re: Cadet restriction un fair Towards Honda!  by 'racingjase'   (15 Nov 2012 @ 21:00)
Re: Cadet restriction un fair Towards Honda!  by 'MartinCapenhurst'   (15 Nov 2012 @ 21:14)
Re: Cadet restriction un fair Towards Honda!  by 'waveydavey42'   (16 Nov 2012 @ 1:05)
Re: Cadet restriction un fair - Rubbish  by 'John'   (16 Nov 2012 @ 7:12)
Re: Cadet restriction un fair - Rubbish  by 'kezz99'   (16 Nov 2012 @ 7:18)
Re: Cadet restriction un fair - Rubbish  by 'racingjase'   (16 Nov 2012 @ 8:17)
Re: Cadet restriction un fair - Rubbish  by 'richydehav'   (16 Nov 2012 @ 8:20)
so where do I get one then?  by 'mattman'   (16 Nov 2012 @ 10:51)
Re: so where do I get one then?  by 'RichardB'   (16 Nov 2012 @ 11:35)
Re: so where do I get one then?  by 'mattman'   (16 Nov 2012 @ 11:38)
Re: so where do I get one then?  by 'EtheT'   (16 Nov 2012 @ 12:37)
Re: Cadet restriction un fair - Rubbish  by 'EtheT'   (16 Nov 2012 @ 12:31)
Re: Cadet restriction un fair - Rubbish  by 'racingjase'   (16 Nov 2012 @ 12:45)
Sorry not to agree with everything, but .....  by 'Mart247'  << You are here!
Re: Cadet restriction un fair Towards Honda!  by 'MongooseMotorsport'   (16 Nov 2012 @ 14:28)
Re: Cadet restriction un fair Towards Honda!  by 'kezz99'   (16 Nov 2012 @ 16:00)
Re: Cadet restriction un fair Towards Honda!  by 'EtheT'   (16 Nov 2012 @ 16:33)
Re: Cadet restriction un fair Towards Honda!  by 'richydehav'   (16 Nov 2012 @ 17:04)
Re: Cadet restriction un fair Towards Honda!  by 'rollover'   (19 Nov 2012 @ 16:48)
Re: Cadet restriction un fair Towards Honda!  by 'AndyOxfordshire'   (19 Nov 2012 @ 21:42)
Re: Cadet restriction un fair Towards Honda!  by 'kezz99'   (19 Nov 2012 @ 21:58)
Re: Cadet restriction un fair Towards Honda!  by 'racingjase'   (19 Nov 2012 @ 22:38)
Re: Cadet restriction un fair Towards Honda!  by 'SteveGraves'   (20 Nov 2012 @ 0:46)
Re: Cadet restriction un fair Towards Honda!  by 'VanDiemen'   (20 Nov 2012 @ 7:42)
Re: Cadet restriction un fair Towards Honda!  by 'racingjase'   (20 Nov 2012 @ 8:31)
Re: Cadet restriction un fair Towards Honda!  by 'AndyOxfordshire'   (20 Nov 2012 @ 9:57)
Re: Cadet restriction un fair Towards Honda!  by 'VanDiemen'   (20 Nov 2012 @ 10:13)
Re: Cadet restriction un fair Towards Honda!  by 'racingjase'   (20 Nov 2012 @ 12:52)
Re: Cadet restriction un fair Towards Honda!  by 'AndyOxfordshire'   (20 Nov 2012 @ 12:58)
Re: Cadet restriction un fair Towards Honda!  by 'kezz99'   (20 Nov 2012 @ 14:05)
Re: Cadet restriction un fair Towards Honda!  by 'rollover'   (20 Nov 2012 @ 15:25)
Re: Cadet restriction un fair Towards Honda!  by 'Robbie3864'   (20 Nov 2012 @ 17:51)
Re: Cadet restriction un fair Towards Honda!  by 'richydehav'   (20 Nov 2012 @ 18:06)
lame engines equal - laugh  by 'RoadRat'   (22 Nov 2012 @ 18:25)

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