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crawl out from under your rock
Posted by 'TheMantis' on 31 Jan 2011 @ 18:59

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TheMantisJoined: May 2002
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"4 strokes ARE good....... but they are over complex, slow and H*E*A*V*Y! As such, they are AGAINST the SPIRIT that DRIVES karting"

Modern 4-stroke:
250cc
35bhp
13,000rpm
15kg
faster than the top rotax in Super 1 around Buckmore Park (could look up other circuits but not bothered)

SO!!!

They are NOT heavier than a rotax or kf, only 100cc. In race trim we run to around 165-170kg

They are NOT slow, if we ran front brakes we could compare times to a KF2 but we dont, so walk all over rotax's

Complexity yes i'll give you that one, we have two camshafts and 4 valves extra over 2-strokes but we dont have powervalves

If we were allowed to run our fuel injection systems rather than carbs modern 4-strokes easily put out over 40bhp reliably.

Rebuild costs: �500 once a year and thats only if you want to. Will get two seasons out of a sealed engine.

Message Thread:

two stroke snobbery? by 'GJM' (31 Jan 2011 @ 11:00)

Re: two stroke snobbery? by 'John' (31 Jan 2011 @ 11:20)

Re: two stroke snobbery? by 'GJM' (31 Jan 2011 @ 11:34)

Re: two stroke snobbery? by 'ScoobyScene' (31 Jan 2011 @ 11:50)

Re: two stroke snobbery? by 'Newshound' (31 Jan 2011 @ 12:01)

Re: two stroke snobbery? by 'John' (31 Jan 2011 @ 12:06)

Here's why...... by 'itpro' (31 Jan 2011 @ 13:27)

crawl out from under your rock by 'TheMantis' << You are here!

Re: crawl out from under your rock by 'davidmc' (31 Jan 2011 @ 19:05)

Mantis..... by 'itpro' (31 Jan 2011 @ 20:34)

oops..... back track..... here., by 'itpro' (31 Jan 2011 @ 20:38)

lol by 'TheMantis' (31 Jan 2011 @ 22:21)

For example by 'TheMantis' (31 Jan 2011 @ 22:29)

Re: crawl out from under your rock by '09karter' (31 Jan 2011 @ 22:53)

Re: crawl out from under your rock by 'Aquila' (31 Jan 2011 @ 22:57)

Re: two stroke snobbery? by 'BrianP' (31 Jan 2011 @ 13:15)

Re: two stroke snobbery? by 'buzzinrussell' (31 Jan 2011 @ 13:17)

Re: two stroke snobbery? by 'BrianP' (31 Jan 2011 @ 13:19)

Re: two stroke snobbery? by 'buzzinrussell' (31 Jan 2011 @ 13:21)

Re: two stroke snobbery? by 'chriskasch' (31 Jan 2011 @ 13:21)

Re: two stroke snobbery? by 'brinjono' (31 Jan 2011 @ 15:59)

Re: two stroke snobbery? by 'Newshound' (31 Jan 2011 @ 13:23)

Re: two stroke snobbery? by 'speedfreakstu' (31 Jan 2011 @ 13:35)

Re: two stroke snobbery? by 'John' (31 Jan 2011 @ 15:23)

Re: two stroke snobbery? by 'Cannar' (31 Jan 2011 @ 15:49)

Re: two stroke snobbery? by 'Aquila' (31 Jan 2011 @ 15:58)

Re: two stroke snobbery? by 'Newshound' (31 Jan 2011 @ 16:31)

Re: two stroke snobbery? by 'Aquila' (31 Jan 2011 @ 17:12)

Re: two stroke snobbery? by 'Aquila' (31 Jan 2011 @ 17:15)

Re: two stroke snobbery? by 'richpudd2003' (31 Jan 2011 @ 18:50)

Re: two stroke snobbery? by 'TheMantis' (31 Jan 2011 @ 19:06)

Re: two stroke snobbery? by 'Newshound' (31 Jan 2011 @ 19:53)

Re: two stroke snobbery? by 'SteveGraves' (31 Jan 2011 @ 20:33)

Re: two stroke snobbery? by 'Aquila' (31 Jan 2011 @ 20:39)

Re: two stroke snobbery? by 'SteveGraves' (31 Jan 2011 @ 20:51)

Re: two stroke snobbery? by 'BD' (31 Jan 2011 @ 20:57)

Re: two stroke snobbery? by 'Aquila' (31 Jan 2011 @ 21:00)

Re: two stroke snobbery? by 'drewdt3' (31 Jan 2011 @ 23:44)

Steve's call sounds like and argument for TKM.... by 'itpro' (31 Jan 2011 @ 21:00)

Re: Steve's call sounds like and argument for TKM. by 'SteveGraves' (31 Jan 2011 @ 21:17)

Newshound by 'TheMantis' (31 Jan 2011 @ 22:28)

Re: Newshound by 'gk43' (31 Jan 2011 @ 22:58)

Re: Newshound by 'Newshound' (01 Feb 2011 @ 0:02)

Re: Newshound by 'SteveGraves' (01 Feb 2011 @ 0:28)

Re: Newshound by 'Newshound' (01 Feb 2011 @ 10:43)

Re: Newshound by 'SteveGraves' (01 Feb 2011 @ 0:20)

Re: two stroke snobbery? by 'doctor46' (31 Jan 2011 @ 23:45)

Re: two stroke snobbery? by 'lubo78' (01 Feb 2011 @ 13:12)

Actually mantis by 'Iwan' (01 Feb 2011 @ 13:37)

Re: two stroke snobbery? by 'UHSimon' (01 Feb 2011 @ 13:23)

Re: two stroke snobbery? by 'Newshound' (01 Feb 2011 @ 13:27)

Re: two stroke snobbery? by 'SteveGraves' (01 Feb 2011 @ 15:37)

Re: two stroke snobbery? by 'SteveGraves' (01 Feb 2011 @ 20:48)

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