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Re: rear end grip
Posted by 'itpro' on 09 Dec 2008 @ 20:43

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Ben.

Sadly, you'll find contradictory advice on many questions like this. From what you say, you've gone the way that I would have done (narrow and soft) to increase the grip/traction at the rear. However, my view is NOT gospel on this (or anything ELSE)! Equally, some old and experienced people will tell you the OPPOSITE and others will agree with me!

However, the best way to solve it is to test the alternatives. For example, just put the bar in, see how THAT makes it 'feel'. nce yuou can feel HOW the rear bar changes the handling, you'll know how and WHEN to use the bar when you NEED to change the chassis in THAT way!

Then, remove it again and try widening the rear (by at least 2 or 3 centimetres so you CAN feel the changes) and see how THAT changes the feeling.

The first thing you'll notice is that widening the rear will make it more stable under braking.

If both of those two make it worse, then I'd look at moving some weight BACKWARD. Test this out by moving IN your seat when you apply the throttle. First try leaning FORWARD on power application. If that makes it MUCH worse (in a similar way), there's a reasonable chance that you are already too far forward! Try leaning BACKWARDS as far as possible when you apply the power (you won't be able to move THAT much!). If that helps with your 'traction', we are probably onto something!

If that DOES help, then simply move the seat rear-wards by (let's guess) 2 to 3 centimetres.

However, remember that increasing rear grip in this way will (probably) reduce some of the FRONT end grip. You get nowt for free!

Finally, it could WELL be down to old tyres and/or you needing to apply the power with more 'consideration'. Remember, your 'target' is to pass through the corner and to EXIT it with aboslutely ZERO steering! You should be aiming for the steering 'dead-ahead' from just after turning in to all the way to the NEXT corner! The slight 'tail-out' through the corner should allow this. Too little tail out or too much is to be avoided!

Ian

Message Thread:

rear end grip by 'BennICC06' (09 Dec 2008 @ 16:49)

Re: rear end grip by 'blobslosak' (09 Dec 2008 @ 17:08)

Re: rear end grip by 'RichyC' (09 Dec 2008 @ 17:11)

Re: rear end grip by 'TheBaron' (09 Dec 2008 @ 18:24)

Re: rear end grip by 'jnrblue91' (09 Dec 2008 @ 19:32)

Re: rear end grip by 'DBaldwin' (09 Dec 2008 @ 19:44)

Re: rear end grip by 'itpro' << You are here!

Re: rear end grip by 'michaelg36' (10 Dec 2008 @ 1:34)

Re: rear end grip by 'BennICC06' (10 Dec 2008 @ 13:32)

Re: rear end grip by 'BennICC06' (10 Dec 2008 @ 13:38)

Re: rear end grip by 'itpro' (10 Dec 2008 @ 15:23)

Re: Remember, your 'target' is to pass by 'MikeWelford' (10 Dec 2008 @ 15:47)

Re: Remember, your 'target' is to pass by 'NJB' (10 Dec 2008 @ 15:54)

Re: Remember, your 'target' is to pass by 'NJB' (10 Dec 2008 @ 15:56)

Re: Remember, your 'target' is to pass by 'itpro' (10 Dec 2008 @ 16:01)

Re: Remember, your 'target' is to pass by 'KenE' (10 Dec 2008 @ 19:40)

Re: Remember, your 'target' is to pass by 'NJB' (10 Dec 2008 @ 20:07)

Re: rear end grip by 'davidmc' (10 Dec 2008 @ 17:52)

Re: rear end grip by 'BennICC06' (11 Dec 2008 @ 12:56)

Re: rear end grip by 'itpro' (11 Dec 2008 @ 13:42)

Re: rear end grip by 'BennICC06' (11 Dec 2008 @ 15:16)

Re: rear end grip by 'itpro' (11 Dec 2008 @ 18:27)

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