come on vic, any evidence is based on "what" might happen, now common sense tells me to respect the space i live in and do my best to protect it, problem is when you put them values into a global context people have different ideas and ideals and most of the time it is about their space........thats why green issues struggle, it means different things to different races, cultures and nations........how to do you sell that global....because that is what it needs
have removed "power" from my posts but does have a massive side affect to all modern green issues
so how do you sell the green issues on a global scale
how do you get get a global change of life style
and how do you get rid of envy.....they have it so i want it
i was raised in a very green way of thinking......but we lived in very small groups..... the thinking is right but doesnt work when applied to people that count, global change, yes you can debate on here the reasons why and you may have enough evidence to prove to some you are right.........but that is worth nothing unless you can change the global view
i have kept out of alot of debates on "green" issues because most seem to about if their view is right but not many ask or offer how to solve the problem........yes you may feel smug sat on top of your house as the water rises "told you so"
the simple fact is "we" the human race cant solve the effects of our actions because we cant control our actions on a global scale..if we cant do that then it is pointless and why i turned my back on global green issues even though i believe they are right,show me a way we can and happy to rejoin the battle....until then i will party like this is our last days and fight against false greens who want to tax me using issues they know litle about and no real solutions except open you wallet
just my views ( and maybe google view may differ)
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