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Re: Eyesight problem, brain fade or just idle?
Posted by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan' on 17 Apr 2009 @ 23:38

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Guys, I know you don't like it and John tried his hardest to explain it to you, I'll spell it out simpler:

You are stating that speeding IS the problem!
The statistics say that ONLY 13% (or lower) of the incidents have speed as a cause. However, 50% of drivers are speeding at any one time.

So 1/2 of all drivers speed but way less than 1/2 of accidents are caused by speed.

If what you say is true and for the stats to be supporting it, a much higher percentile of accidents would involve speed. (In fact a percentile higher than 50% would support your "speeding" argument!)

Interpreting the stats correctly the imbalance of the figures points away from your argument! And instead point in the direction of the conclusion that the other 50% of the drivers, who aren't speeding at all, contribute to a much higher percentile: the remaining 83% of accidents.

But we'll forgive you for doing what you were taught by the Labour party for the last 10years = interpret the stats in your favour.

BTW, the above were strictly a mathematical interpretation of the statistics presented by both you and John and hopefully you can now see how governments engineer arguments based on statistics, simply based on the fact that the populous do not know how to interpret them and attach sentiment to raw FIGURES rather than their meaning!

Dan

PS. I couldn't help noticing that neither TTKM nor Ian (or others on that side of the argument) have commented to the thread about the Green Wave! A case of uncomfortable truth? Bit like the one in case here!

Message Thread:

Speed limits by 'MarkW' (12 Apr 2009 @ 3:19)

Re: Speed limits by 'Latestarter' (12 Apr 2009 @ 6:53)

Re: Speed limits by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan' (12 Apr 2009 @ 9:18)

Re: Speed limits by 'mobilechicane' (12 Apr 2009 @ 10:33)

Re: Speed limits by 'Tmoon' (12 Apr 2009 @ 11:44)

Re: Speed limits by 'DBaldwin' (12 Apr 2009 @ 12:16)

Re: Speed limits by 'michaelg36' (12 Apr 2009 @ 12:36)

Re: Speed limits by 'harvinsurrey' (12 Apr 2009 @ 17:00)

Re: Speed limits by 'harvinsurrey' (12 Apr 2009 @ 17:02)

Re: Speed limits by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan' (12 Apr 2009 @ 20:41)

Re: Speed limits by 'kudos' (12 Apr 2009 @ 22:19)

Re: Speed limits by 'HC64' (13 Apr 2009 @ 0:17)

Re: Speed limits by 'ChrisAdams' (13 Apr 2009 @ 2:00)

Re: Speed limits by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan' (13 Apr 2009 @ 8:07)

Re: Speed limits by 'JohnClucas' (13 Apr 2009 @ 9:18)

Re: Speed limits by 'davidmc' (13 Apr 2009 @ 11:37)

Re: I don't want to re-run the argument again by 'JohnClucas' (13 Apr 2009 @ 12:46)

Re: Speed limits by 'harvinsurrey' (13 Apr 2009 @ 9:26)

Re: Speed limits by 'HC64' (13 Apr 2009 @ 9:42)

Re: Speed limits by 'DBaldwin' (13 Apr 2009 @ 10:07)

Re: Speed limits by 'HC64' (13 Apr 2009 @ 11:03)

Re: Speed limits by 'davidmc' (13 Apr 2009 @ 11:49)

Re: Speed limits by 'ChrisAdams' (13 Apr 2009 @ 13:32)

Re: Speed limits by 'JohnClucas' (14 Apr 2009 @ 10:55)

Re: Speed limits by 'davidmc' (14 Apr 2009 @ 11:33)

Re: Sorry david but it certainly does by 'JohnClucas' (14 Apr 2009 @ 16:25)

Re: Speed limits and cameras by 'JohnClucas' (14 Apr 2009 @ 16:42)

Re: Speed limits and cameras by 'TanglerTKM' (14 Apr 2009 @ 17:29)

Re: No Tangler by 'JohnClucas' (14 Apr 2009 @ 17:34)

can you post the link? by 'TanglerTKM' (14 Apr 2009 @ 17:38)

Re: Give me strength by 'JohnClucas' (14 Apr 2009 @ 19:31)

You don't have the figures do you John... by 'TanglerTKM' (14 Apr 2009 @ 23:58)

Re: Eyesight problem, brain fade or just idle? by 'JohnClucas' (15 Apr 2009 @ 20:54)

Re: Eyesight problem, brain fade or just idle? by 'Avago' (15 Apr 2009 @ 22:36)

Re: Eyesight problem, brain fade or just idle? by 'TanglerTKM' (16 Apr 2009 @ 1:45)

Re: Avago Tangler by 'JohnClucas' (16 Apr 2009 @ 8:04)

Re: John by 'davidmc' (16 Apr 2009 @ 9:41)

..trying to make it simple. by 'TanglerTKM' (16 Apr 2009 @ 11:37)

Re: David by 'JohnClucas' (16 Apr 2009 @ 14:43)

Re: Tangler by 'JohnClucas' (16 Apr 2009 @ 14:54)

Re: John by 'davidmc' (16 Apr 2009 @ 20:43)

Re: sorry David by 'JohnClucas' (16 Apr 2009 @ 22:02)

John, stop making conclusions you can't make by 'TanglerTKM' (16 Apr 2009 @ 22:44)

Re: Eyesight problem, brain fade or just idle? by 'davidmc' (17 Apr 2009 @ 0:27)

Re:straws get thinner by the moment by 'JohnClucas' (17 Apr 2009 @ 19:22)

Re: Eyesight problem, brain fade or just idle? by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan' << You are here!

Dan & John by 'TanglerTKM' (18 Apr 2009 @ 10:06)

Re: convenient misinterpretation of the figures by 'JohnClucas' (18 Apr 2009 @ 20:44)

Re: Speed limits by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan' (13 Apr 2009 @ 22:14)

Re: Speed limits by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan' (13 Apr 2009 @ 22:20)

Re: Speed limits by 'davidmc' (14 Apr 2009 @ 8:32)

Re: Speed limits by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan' (14 Apr 2009 @ 9:00)

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